Comments on: Cap it Now http://www.constantconservative.com/2009/cap-it-now Mon, 26 Jul 2010 14:48:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Chet http://www.constantconservative.com/2009/cap-it-now/comment-page-1#comment-865 Chet Sun, 05 Apr 2009 18:30:22 +0000 http://www.constantconservative.com/?p=3278#comment-865 <i>The bailouts that he ok’d, his budget, the damage he has done to our relations with other countries, jacking up taxes, playing a key role in the Fed taking over the free market so now it is a Fed market…</i> 1) The bailouts are Bush policy. 2) The difference in percentage between Obama's budget and Bush's last budget is about the same as the rate of inflation over the same period. 3) Our relations with other countries are far better now than at any time since 2001, largely due to Bush no longer being in the White House. 4) Obama has not raised taxes, but lowered them. 5) The Fed has not "taken over" the free market; rather, it has made loans to and paid for stock in a small number of key industry leaders, in order to save your job and the jobs of countless other Americans. These things are a matter of historical fact, easily discerned from a legitimate newspaper or news program. Put down the conservative revisionist sources and educate yourself. The "thermostat situation" is a figment of your paranoid imagination. The bailouts that he ok’d, his budget, the damage he has done to our relations with other countries, jacking up taxes, playing a key role in the Fed taking over the free market so now it is a Fed market…

1) The bailouts are Bush policy.
2) The difference in percentage between Obama’s budget and Bush’s last budget is about the same as the rate of inflation over the same period.
3) Our relations with other countries are far better now than at any time since 2001, largely due to Bush no longer being in the White House.
4) Obama has not raised taxes, but lowered them.
5) The Fed has not “taken over” the free market; rather, it has made loans to and paid for stock in a small number of key industry leaders, in order to save your job and the jobs of countless other Americans.

These things are a matter of historical fact, easily discerned from a legitimate newspaper or news program. Put down the conservative revisionist sources and educate yourself.

The “thermostat situation” is a figment of your paranoid imagination.

]]> By: Wolfman87 http://www.constantconservative.com/2009/cap-it-now/comment-page-1#comment-859 Wolfman87 Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:25:59 +0000 http://www.constantconservative.com/?p=3278#comment-859 Michael, (by the way, my middle name is spelled the same way) That is true enough, no analogy is perfect, Kenneth Burke does a really good job of explaining the use of analogies in one of his books where he talks about perspective by incongruity, I will get the citation for you because I recommend Burke to anyone. I guess my point was, it doesn't take long for the gov. to take power, usurp rights, and bureaucratize things they never should have gotten into in the first place, it is relatively easy for them to do this if they have no problem tricking people to do it. The really difficult thing is to get them out, to get your rights back, to reduce the gov.'s power, that is the nature of the beast. Now Chet, as far as citing the bill number, I can't do that because I don't' know them off the top of my head. But to more specific than I have, some examples would include (but are not limited to...): The bailouts that he ok'd, his budget, the damage he has done to our relations with other countries, jacking up taxes, playing a key role in the Fed taking over the free market so now it is a Fed market... and if I had enough time I could probably think of some more. (I hate to use this as an excuse but I am at work and only have a limited amount of time to comment.) The thermostat situation, is something he (Obama, and no I am not going to cite the paragraph from his teleprompter that he read it from) said he plans to do because of the energy situation. (You know, the "We are running out of energy sources and must not use fossil fuels" deal, to be more specific.) Wolfman87 Michael, (by the way, my middle name is spelled the same way)
That is true enough, no analogy is perfect, Kenneth Burke does a really good job of explaining the use of analogies in one of his books where he talks about perspective by incongruity, I will get the citation for you because I recommend Burke to anyone. I guess my point was, it doesn’t take long for the gov. to take power, usurp rights, and bureaucratize things they never should have gotten into in the first place, it is relatively easy for them to do this if they have no problem tricking people to do it. The really difficult thing is to get them out, to get your rights back, to reduce the gov.’s power, that is the nature of the beast.

Now Chet, as far as citing the bill number, I can’t do that because I don’t’ know them off the top of my head. But to more specific than I have, some examples would include (but are not limited to…): The bailouts that he ok’d, his budget, the damage he has done to our relations with other countries, jacking up taxes, playing a key role in the Fed taking over the free market so now it is a Fed market… and if I had enough time I could probably think of some more. (I hate to use this as an excuse but I am at work and only have a limited amount of time to comment.) The thermostat situation, is something he (Obama, and no I am not going to cite the paragraph from his teleprompter that he read it from) said he plans to do because of the energy situation. (You know, the “We are running out of energy sources and must not use fossil fuels” deal, to be more specific.)

Wolfman87

]]> By: Michael Woodring http://www.constantconservative.com/2009/cap-it-now/comment-page-1#comment-837 Michael Woodring Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:56:35 +0000 http://www.constantconservative.com/?p=3278#comment-837 Wolfman, Analogies are useful only insofar as they permit us to view something from a different perspective--but none of them (including ocean liners) are perfect. My problem with the mountain analogy is that we have slipped down so far we are already in the valley. :) Wolfman,

Analogies are useful only insofar as they permit us to view something from a different perspective–but none of them (including ocean liners) are perfect. My problem with the mountain analogy is that we have slipped down so far we are already in the valley. :)

]]> By: Chet http://www.constantconservative.com/2009/cap-it-now/comment-page-1#comment-834 Chet Thu, 02 Apr 2009 18:53:42 +0000 http://www.constantconservative.com/?p=3278#comment-834 What damage, specifically? Cite policies that were actually Obama's and have actually taken effect. Imaginary Obama Youth breaking into your house to subvert your thermostats don't count. What damage, specifically? Cite policies that were actually Obama’s and have actually taken effect. Imaginary Obama Youth breaking into your house to subvert your thermostats don’t count.

]]> By: wolfman87 http://www.constantconservative.com/2009/cap-it-now/comment-page-1#comment-831 wolfman87 Thu, 02 Apr 2009 17:54:32 +0000 http://www.constantconservative.com/?p=3278#comment-831 I have to disagree with you on this one CC, gov. is not so much like an ocean liner as a mountian. We start at the top, and when we give the gov. power, we slide down a little, the problem is, the government will take power as fast as it can, but it is exptremely slow going trying to take the power and give it back to the people. That is how Obama and his support crew have done so much damage so quickly, they have taken power, and convinced people to give them more and more, now we have a long, up hill battle to get it back. I have to disagree with you on this one CC, gov. is not so much like an ocean liner as a mountian. We start at the top, and when we give the gov. power, we slide down a little, the problem is, the government will take power as fast as it can, but it is exptremely slow going trying to take the power and give it back to the people.

That is how Obama and his support crew have done so much damage so quickly, they have taken power, and convinced people to give them more and more, now we have a long, up hill battle to get it back.

]]> By: Chet http://www.constantconservative.com/2009/cap-it-now/comment-page-1#comment-829 Chet Thu, 02 Apr 2009 14:36:56 +0000 http://www.constantconservative.com/?p=3278#comment-829 <i>The problem with government is that it is very like a large ocean liner: Once moving in a given direction it requires substantial time and energy to get it going in even a slightly different direction.</i> Right, which is why it makes <I>total sense</I> that, in the <I>three months</i> of the Obama administration, he's succeeded in turning the country from a capitalist paradise into <I>full-on socialism.</i> Do you expect anyone to take your nonsense seriously? The way you contradict yourself every other post I'm beginning to think this is all a put-on. The problem with government is that it is very like a large ocean liner: Once moving in a given direction it requires substantial time and energy to get it going in even a slightly different direction.

Right, which is why it makes total sense that, in the three months of the Obama administration, he’s succeeded in turning the country from a capitalist paradise into full-on socialism.

Do you expect anyone to take your nonsense seriously? The way you contradict yourself every other post I’m beginning to think this is all a put-on.

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